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Karloff

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Posté: 20 Nov 2012, 17:03

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c'est surtout en anglais sur un film déjà sur-vu et analysé.

Autre chose à foutre.

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Pourtant je l'ai lu l'article, je trouve pas ça inintéressant mais comme pour l'autre (celui sur Looper) j'ai un peu l'impression que le mec brasse du vent quand même.

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Celui-là je le trouve beaucoup moins abouti.

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Posté: 29 Nov 2012, 02:24

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Longue interview où Nolan revient en profondeur sur la trilogie :
http://filmcomment.com/article/cinemati ... tt-foundas

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In a way, the films feel like a tour of different schools of creating social revolution. You have Ra’s Al Ghul with his very clear-cut extremist ideology—

Almost religious, I would say.

And then you have the anarchy of The Joker, and in The Dark Knight Rises you come back with the followers of Ra’s Al Ghul who are trying to enact his plans by masking it as class warfare.

Class warfare but also in a militaristic, dictatorial approach. If you look at the three of them, Ra’s Al Ghul is almost a religious figure, The Joker is the anti-religious figure, the anti-structure anarchist. And then Bane comes in as a military dictator. And military dictators can be ideologically based, they can be religiously based, or a combination thereof.

(...)

What were the technical and physical challenges of doing these films? They’re much bigger than anything you had done up to that point in your career. Was that intimidating?

The thing I learned is that no matter how big the film became, people would always complain it was too small. For the studio, it was never enough. So you learn to relax with it a little bit, and trust your instincts about scale, how this is going to feel big enough when it’s in the can. So when we came to do The Dark Knight, we were comfortable setting much more of the film just in Gotham, in more claustrophobic situations, because having been all over the world for Batman Begins and having a very big scale, with an exploding monastery and sliding down the cliff and all that, by the time we get to The Dark Knight we had the confidence to say, “If we’re putting huge characters and huge conflict on screen, and making this kind of urban crime drama, the scale will naturally be there, in just the way we shoot The Joker walking down the street with a machine gun. That will be a huge image.” That was a big part of investing in that sort of tableau style of photography which I hadn’t really done before.

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When you were starting to write The Dark Knight Rises, were you thinking about what was going on with the economy and movements like Occupy Wall Street, in terms of the depiction of society on the brink of a kind of second American Revolution?

We were writing years before Occupy Wall Street, and we were actually shooting at the time that it arose, but I think the similarities come from Occupy being a response to the banking crisis in 2008. We were sitting there in a world where, on the news, we were constantly being presented with what-if scenarios. Like: “What if all the banks go bust?” “What if the stock market is worth nothing?” These questions are terrifying, and we were taking the view that we should be writing about what’s most frightening. We came to the idea of how in America we take for granted a stability to our class and social structure that has never been sustained elsewhere in the world. In other words, this sort of thing has happened in countries all over the world, why not here? And why not now? So a lot of the ideas underlying the film come from a situation in which the economy was in crisis and therefore even on the news questions are being asked—unthinkable questions about what might happen in society.

It was interesting to see the spectrum of reactions to The Dark Knight Rises, with some arguing that it was a sort of a neoconservative or very right-wing film and others seeing it as being a radical leftist film. And one of the things the film seems to be talking about is how easily the political rhetoric of one extreme can be co-opted by the complete opposite extreme.

Absolutely, and then you get into the philosophical question: if an energy or a movement can be co-opted for evil, then is that a critique of the movement itself? All of these different interpretations are possible. What was surprising to me is how many pundits would write about their political interpretation of the film and not understand that any one political interpretation necessarily involved ignoring huge chunks of the film. And it made me feel good about where we had positioned the film, because it’s not intended to be politically specific. It would be absurd to try to make a politically specific film about this subject matter, where you’re actually trying to pull the shackles off everyday life and go to a more frightening place where anything is possible. You’re off the conventional political spectrum, so it’s very subject to interpretation and misinterpretation.

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Le blu-ray est dingue. J'en connais qui vont retourner leur veste, juste en découvrant les scènes Imax (presque) au bon format. Mine de rien, ça change le ressenti (surtout les combats).

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Moi je trouve ça cool ces scènes au format Imax, mais encore une fois, j'aurai aimé avoir le choix de le voir avec ou pas.... Ça me gave d'avoir ça imposé.

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Le Cow-boy a écrit:

Moi je trouve ça cool ces scènes au format Imax, mais encore une fois, j'aurai aimé avoir le choix de le voir avec ou pas.... Ça me gave d'avoir ça imposé.

C'est surtout chelou les changements de format en plein film.

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Le Cow-boy

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Posté: 29 Nov 2012, 09:06

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Ben oui c'est ce que je sous-entendais...

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Bon décidemment je dois être le seul que ça choque pas. En fait je vois pas comment faire autrement. Rogner le format Imax, c'est sacrilège !

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J'suis avec le cow boy.

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marre du retour infini de ce topic

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marre de tes provocations infinies.

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