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Preuve de rien du tout, on est sur un forum ciné.
Demande à ton boulanger s'il a entendu parler du top Sight & Sound, il l'a peut-être vu au 13h de Pernaud.

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Là tu te trompes, cela a été très repris sur Internet, aujourd'hui première source d'info dans le monde. Après le grand public s'arrête à Vertigo...

Plus exactement, moins tu as de grands films dans ta filmo, moins ça se répartit. Welles ou Kubrick ont plusieurs sommets dans leur carrière, mais on s'accord plus ou moins sur Citizen Kane et 2001.

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Que lire cet hiver ?
Bien sûr, nous eûmes des orages, 168 pages, 14.00€ (Commander)
La Vie brève de Jan Palach, 192 pages, 16.50€ (Commander)

Chuis tout de même étonné de voir plusieurs Coppola dans les 50 mais aucun autre Kubrick (ou alors j'ai mal regardé).

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Ca me semble assez logique, au contraire.

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Que lire cet hiver ?
Bien sûr, nous eûmes des orages, 168 pages, 14.00€ (Commander)
La Vie brève de Jan Palach, 192 pages, 16.50€ (Commander)

Pourquoi ?

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N'écoutez pas Film Freak

Comme je le disais plus haut, tout le monde s'accorde plus ou moins sur 2001 qui constitue (à tort ou à raison) pour beaucoup LE sommet d'une carrière fabuleuse. Pour Coppola, ça balance déjà un peu plus et les votes se diluent entre Le Parrain, Le Parrain 2, Apocalypse Now, Jack...

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Que lire cet hiver ?
Bien sûr, nous eûmes des orages, 168 pages, 14.00€ (Commander)
La Vie brève de Jan Palach, 192 pages, 16.50€ (Commander)

Joli la blague avec Jack
Chez Coppola, je trouve que le sommet de sa carrière artistique c'est Conversation secrète, sa première palme d'or. Après le film est trop méconnu et n'a clairement pas l'aura auprès du public d'un Parrain ou Apocalypse now.

Ok, oui je vois ce que tu veux dire.

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N'écoutez pas Film Freak

Tops individuels des réals :


Woody Allen
"Bicycle Thieves" (1948, dir. Vittorio De Sica)
"The Seventh Seal" (1957, dir. Ingmar Bergman)
"Citizen Kane" (1941, dir. Orson Welles
"Amarcord" (1973, dir. Federico Fellini
"8 1/2" (1963, dir. Federico Fellini)
"The 400 Blows" (1959, dir. Francois Truffaut)
"Rashomon" (1950, dir. Akira Kurosawa)
"La Grande Illusion" (1937, dir. Jean Renoir)
"The Discreet Charm Of The Bourgeoisie" (1972, dir. Luis Bunuel)
"Paths Of Glory" (1957, dir. Stanley Kubrick)

Richard Ayoade
"Persona" (1966, dir. Ingmar Bergman)
"Le Mépris" (1963, dir. Jean-Luc Godard)
"Raging Bull" (1980, dir. Martin Scorsese)
"Ordet" (1955, dir. Carl Theodor Dreyer)
"Barry Lyndon" (1975, dir. Stanley Kubrick)
"Crimes And Misdemeanors" (1989, dir. Woody Allen)
"The Apartment" (1960, dir. Billy Wilder)
"Tokyo Story" (1953, dir. Yasujiro Ozu)
"Make Way For Tomorrow" (1937, dir. Leo McCarey)
"Badlands" (1973, dir. Terrence Malick)

Bong Joon-Ho
"A City Of Sadness" (1989, dir. Hou Hsiao-hsien)
"Cure" (1997, dir. Kiyoshi Kurosawa)
"The Housemaid" (1960, dir. Kim Ki-young)
"Fargo" (1996, dir. The Coen Brothers)
"Psycho" (1960, dir. Alfred Hitchcock)
"Raging Bull" (1980, dir. Martin Scorsese)
"Touch Of Evil" (1958, dir. Orson Welles)
"Vengeance Is Mine" (1973, dir. Shohei Imamura)
"The Wages Of Fear" (1953, dir. Henri-Georges Clouzot)
"Zodiac" (2007, dir. David Fincher)

Francis Ford Coppola
"Ashes And Diamonds" (1958, dir. Andrzej Wajda)
"The Best Years Of Our Lives" (1946, dir William Wyler)
"I vitteloni" (1953, dir. Federico Fellini)
"The Bad Sleep Well (1960, dir. Akira Kurosawa)
"Yojimbo" (1961, dir. Akira Kurosawa)
"Singin' In The Rain (1952, dir. Stanley Donen & Gene Kelly)
"The King Of Comedy" (1983, dir Martin Scorsese)
"Raging Bull" (1980, dir. Martin Scorsese)
"The Apartment" (1960s, dir. Billy Wilder)
"Sunrise" (1927, dir. F.W. Murnau)

Jean-Pierre & Luc Dardenne
"Accatone" (1961, dir. Pier Paolo Pasolini)
"The Big Heat" (1953, dir. Fritz Lang)
"Dodes'ka-den" (1970, dir. Akira Kurosawa)
"Germany Year Zero" (1948, dir. Roberto Rossellini)
"Loulou" (1980, dir. Maurice Pialat)
"Modern Times" (1936, dir. Charlie Chaplin)
"The Searchers" (1956, dir. John Ford)
"Shoah" (1985, dir. Claude Lanzmann)
"Street Of Shame" (1956, dir. Kenji Mizoguchi)
"Sunrise" (1927, dir. F.W. Murnau)

Guillermo Del Toro
"Frankenstein" (1931, dir. James Whale)
"Freaks" (1932, dir. Todd Browning)
"Shadow Of A Doubt" (1943, dir. Alfred Hitchcock)
"Greed" (1925, dir. Erich Von Stroheim)
"Modern Times" (1936, dir. Charlie Chaplin)
"La Belle Et La Bete" (1946, dir. Jean Cocteau)
"Goodfellas" (1990, dir. Martin Scorsese)
"Los olvidados" (1950, dir. Luis Bunuel)
"Nosferatu" (1922, dir. F.W. Murnau)
"8 1/2" (1963, dir. Federico Fellini)

Sean Durkin
"The Shining" (1980, dir. Stanley Kubrick)
"Rosemary's Baby" (1968, dir. Roman Polanski)
"Jaws" (1975, dir. Steven Spielberg)
"3 Women" (1977, dir. Robert Altman)
"The Birds" (1963, dir. Alfred Hitchcock)
"The Goonies" (1985, dir. Richard Donner)
"The Piano Teacher" (2001, dir. Michael Haneke)
"Persona" (1966, dir. Ingmar Bergman)
"The Panic In Needle Park" (1971, dir. Jerry Schatzberg)
"The Conformist" (1970, dir. Bernardo Bertolucci)

Asghar Farhadi
"Rashomon" (1950, dir. Akira Kurosawa)
"La strada" (1954, dir. Federico Fellini)
"The Godfather" (1972, dir. Francis Ford Coppola)
"Tokyo Story" (1953, dir. Yasujiro Ozu)
"The Apartment" (1960, dir. Billy Wilder)
"Three Colors Red" (1994, dir. Krzysztof Kieslowski)
"Take The Money And Run" (1969, dir. Woody Allen)
"Scenes From A Marriage" (1973, dir. Ingmar Bergman)
"Taxi Driver (1976, dir. Martin Scorsese)
"Modern Times" (1936, dir. Charlie Chaplin)

Michel Hazavanicius
"City Girl" (1930, dir. F.W. Murnau)
"City Lights" (1931, dir. Charlie Chaplin)
"To Be Or Not To Be" (1942, dir. Ernst Lubitsch)
"Citizen Kane" (1941, dir. Orson Welles)
"The Apartment" (1960, dir. Billy Wilder)
"The Shining" (1980, dir. Stanley Kubrick)
"North By Northwest" (1959, dir. Alfred Hitchcock)
"The Third Man" (1949, dir. Carol Reed)
"Raging Bull" (1980, dir. Martin Scorsese)
"Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs" (1937, dir. Walt Disney)

Miranda July
"Blind" (1987, dir. Frederick Wiseman)
"Smooth Talk" (1985, dir. Joyce Chopra)
"Vertigo" (1958, dir. Alfred Hitchcock)
"After Life" (1998, dir. Hirokazu Koreeda)
"Somewhere In Time" (1980, dir. Jeannot Szwarc)
"Cheese" (2007, dir. Mika Rottenberg)
"Punch Drunk Love" (2002, dir. Paul Thomas Anderson)
"The Red Balloon" (1956, dir. Albert Lamorisse)
"A Room With A View" (1985, dir. James Ivory)
"Fish Tank" (2009, dir. Andrea Arnold)

Mike Leigh
"American Madness" (1932, dir. Frank Capra)
"Andrei Rublev" (1966, dir. Andrei Tarkovsky)
"I Am Cuba" (1964, dir. Mikhai Kalatozov)
"The Emigrants" (1971, dir. Jan Troell)
"How A Mosquito Operates" (1912, dir. Winsor McCay)
"Jules Et Jim" (1962, dir. Francois Truffaut)
"Radio Days" (1987, dir. Woody Allen)
"Songs From The Second Floor (2000, dir. Roy Andersson)
"Tokyo Story" (1953, dir. Yasujiro Ozu)

Michael Mann
"Apocalypse Now" (1979, dir. Francis Ford Coppola)
"Battleship Potemkin" (1925, dir. Sergei Eisenstein)
"Citizen Kane" (1941, dir. Orson Welles)
"Avatar" (2009, dir. James Cameron)
"Dr. Strangelove" (1964, dir. Stanley Kubrick)
"Biutiful" (2010, dir. Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu)
"My Darling Clementine" (1946, dir. John Ford)
"The Passion Of Joan Of Arc" (1928, dir. Carl Theodor Dreyer)
"Raging Bull" (1980, dir. Martin Scorsese)
"The Wild Bunch" (1969, dir. Sam Peckinpah)

Steve McQueen
"The Battle Of Algiers" (1966, dir. Gillo Pontecorvo)
"Zero de Conduite" (1933, dir. Jean Vigo)
"La Regle du Jeu" (1939, dir. Jean Renoir)
"Tokyo Story" (1953, dir. Yasujiro Ozu)
"Couch" (1964, dir. Andy Warhol)
"Le Mépris" (1963, dir. Jean-Luc Godard)
"Beau Travail" (1998, dir. Claire Denis)
"Once Upon A Time In America" (1984, dir. Sergio Leone)
"The Wages Of Fear" (1953, dir. Henri-Georges Clouzot)
"Do The Right Thing" (1989, dir. Spike Lee)

Jeff Nichols
"Cool Hand Luke" (1967, dir. Stuart Rosenberg)
"Badlands" (1973, dir. Terrence Malick)
"Hud" (1963, dir. Martin Ritt)
"The Hustler" (1961, dir. Robert Rossen)
"Lawrence Of Arabia" (1962, dir. David Lean)
"Butch Cassidy And The Sundance Kid" (1969, dir. George Roy Hill)
"Jaws" (1975, dir. Steven Spielberg)
"North By Northwest" (1959, dir. Alfred Hitchcock)
"Stagecoach" (1939, dir. John Ford)
"Fletch" (1985, dir. Michael Ritchie)

David O. Russell
"It's A Wonderful Life" (1946, dir. Frank Capra)
"Chinatown" (1974, dir. Roman Polanski)
"Goodfellas" (1990, dir. Martin Scorsese)
"Vertigo" (1958, dir. Alfred Hitchcock)
"Pulp Fiction" (1994, dir. Quentin Tarantino)
"Raging Bull" (1980, dir. Martin Scorsese)
"Young Frankenstein" (1974, dir. Mel Brooks)
"The Discreet Charm Of The Bourgeoisie" (1972, dir. Luis Bunuel)
"The Godfather" (1972, dir. Francis Ford Coppola)
"Blue Velvet" (1986, dir. David Lynch)
"Groundhog Day" (1993, dir. Harold Ramis)

Martin Scorsese
"8 1/2" (1963, dir. Federico Fellini)
"2001: A Space Odyssey" (1968, dir. Stanley Kubrick)
"Ashes And Diamonds" (1958, dir. Andrzej Wajda)
"Citizen Kane" (1941, dir. Orson Welles)
"The Leopard" (1963, dir. Luchino Visconti)
"Palsa" (1946, dir. Roberto Rossellini)
"The Red Shoes" (1948, dir. Michael Powell & Emeric Pressburger)
"The River" (1951, dir. Jean Renoir)
"Salvatore Giuliano" (1962, dir. Francesco Rosi)
"The Searchers" (1956, dir. John Ford)
"Ugetsu Monogatari" (1953, dir. Kenji Mizoguchi)
"Vertigo" (1958, dir. Alfred Hitchcock)

Quentin Tarantino
"The Good, The Bad & The Ugly" (1966, dir. Sergio Leone)
"Apocalypse Now" (1979, dir. Francis Ford Coppola)
"The Bad News Bears" (1976, dir. Michael Ritchie)
"Carrie" (1976, dir. Brian DePalma)
"Dazed And Confused" (1993, dir. Richard Linklater)
"The Great Escape" (1963, dir. John Sturges)
"His Girl Friday" (1940, dir. Howard Hawks)
"Jaws" (1975, dir. Steven Spielberg)
"Pretty Maids All In A Row (1971, dir. Roger Vadim)
"Rolling Thunder" (1977, dir. John Flynn)
"Sorcerer" (1977, dir. William Friedkin)
"Taxi Driver" (1976, dir. Martin Scorsese)

Bela Tarr
"Man With A Movie Camera" (1929, dir. Dziga Vertov)
"The Passion Of Joan Of Arc" (1928, dir. Carl Theodor Dreyer)
"Alexander Nevsky" (1938, dir. Sergei Eisenstein)
"M" (1931, dir. Fritz Lang)
"Au hasard Balthazar" (1966, dir. Robert Bresson)
"Vivre sa vie" (1962, dir. Jean-Luc Godard)
"Frenzy" (1972, dir. Alfred Hitchcock)
"Tokyo Story" (1953, dir. Yasujiro Ozu)
"The Round-Up" (1965, dir. Miklós Jancsó)
"Berlin Alexanderplatz" (1980, dir. Rainer Werner Fassbinder)

Edgar Wright
"2001: A Space Odyssey" (1968, dir. Stanley Kubrick)
"An American Werewolf In London" (1981, dir. John Landis)
"Carrie" (1976, dir. Brian DePalma)
"Dames" (1934, dir. Ray Enright & Busby Berkeley)
"Don't Look Now" (1973, dir. Nicolas Roeg)
"Duck Soup" (1933, dir. Leo McCarey)
"Psycho" (1960, dir. Alfred Hitchcock)
"Raising Arizona" (1987, dir. The Coen Brothers)
"Taxi Driver" (1976, dir. Martin Scorsese)
"The Wild Bunch" (1969, dir. Sam Peckinpah)

Apichatpong Weerasethakul
"Goodbye Dragon Inn" (2003, dir. Ming-liang Tsai)
"A Brighter Summer Day" (1991, dir. Edward Yang)
"Rain" (1929, dir. Joris Ivens)
"Empire" (1964, dir. Andy Warhol)
"Valentin de la Sierras" (1971, dir. Bruce Baillie)
"The Conversation" (1974, dir. Francis Ford Coppola)
"Full Metal Jacket" (1987, dir. Stanley Kubrick)
"The Eighties" (1983, dir. Chantal Akerman)
"The General" (1926, dir. Buster Keaton)
"Sátántangó"(1994, dir. Bela Tarr)

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Depuis quelques années, 2001 se fait tailler dans les croupières par Barry Lyndon chez les critiques. Peut-être un mouvement snob... et en même temps c'est justifié! Et je ne serais pas étonné qu'à terme Eyes Wide Shut ou Shining remontent.

Quasi que des polars .


CRAQUAGE.


RESPECT.


BOOM.


LOL.


YEAH.


Réal cité deux fois du coup.


ApichatPOSE.


Sinon marrant de voir que c'est Jaws le seul Spielberg qui revient. J'aurai plutôt parié sur Close Encounters.

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Apichatpong qui cite Béla Tarr c'est logique... Sinon comment il constitue le panel ? Parce que Sean Durkin et Miranda July ce n'est pas grand monde quand même

Ils sont pas moins légitimes.

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J'aurais préféré Fincher et Nolan s'il voulait des ricains.