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Au départ, je me disais que c'était pas pertinent mais...



...j'aime qu'on reprenne le protagoniste du premier film sans qu'il ait surpassé ses problèmes. C'est déjà ce que j'aimais dans la fin du premier, on sentait que l'expérience l'avait transformé et avait finalement fait de lui un tueur, peut-être même un monstre au même titre que ses tortionnaires.
Je VEUX le voir complètement ravagé de la tête dans la suite...et explorer plus avant l'organisation, c'est bien, c'est exploiter le potentiel traité en surface de l'original, peut-être approfondir la critique de la société voyeuriste actuelle et le point de vue US sur l'Europe et le reste du monde.

putain faut que je finisse Cellulaire aussi

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Le teaser...bon, c'est vraiment un teaser de chez teaser quoi...pour "mettre le film sur la carte" comme on dit...mais c'est marrant.

http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/hostelpartiiqt.html




Fini d'ailleurs...cf. l'autre fil.

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Oui j'espère que ça jouera un peu la surenchère par rapport au premier. Et que ce sera moins long à démarrer. Et que ce sera pas juste la même chose.

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Roth ressemble un peu au héros de Hostel...Le premier est interessant, je suis curieux de voir celui-là.

Ah oui oui très bonne affiche, très bien.

Dommage qu'encore une fois je pense qu'à aucun moment dans le film on ne ressentira le millième de la douleur ressentie par les scènes d'arrachage d'ongles dans SYRIANA et LE VENT SE LEVE mais bon...

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Liam Engle: réalisateur et scénariste

Je kiffais déjà celles du 1. Celles du 2 assurent.

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Tetete, un peu de foi que diable!

Check this out :

Does Hostel: Part II pick up from where the last one left off?

Yes, Hostel: Part II picks up literally the next cut, where the first one left off. I think Friday the 13th part 2 did that, I believe Porky’s 2: The Next Day may have done something similar although Porky’s 2 is a bit of a comeback. Porky’s Forever is a film I’d love to one-day tackle but I don’t think I’m quite there yet. Yeah, I love movies to pick up literally the next cut that you could actually chop out the credits from Hostel 1 and watch 1 and 2 back to back.

How different is the structure of Hostel: Part II?

There won’t be as much swashbuckling as there was [in part 1]. There’s some gallivanting. Structurally in the first movie, the fun of it was using the structure as almost a sex comedy; taking the first half of the movie and then just completely pulling the rug out from under everyone. It starts off safe and colorful and then once Josh gets killed, suddenly your main character is gone, the color is drained away, the lenses get tighter, more handheld.

Then you actually see later that it’s more parallel; kind of mirror image of each other. The guy’s making fun of the hookers and they become the hookers. So the fun of Hostel 1 was taking people on that ride and doing the tonal switch but you can’t do that again. You can’t sort of reset and then have Hostel: Part II start off like a fun, safe comedy and then switch. So what I decided was that tonally I wanted the movie to pick up exactly where the last one left off.

I watched the movie with audiences around the world and I tried to watch what stuff I thought worked and what didn’t work and what I could’ve done better and there’s a lot of stuff. There were certain things like the kids I thought were great but generally my favorite section of the movie was when he was in the pub with the girls and the girls were all f**ked up and then all sort of leading up into the factory into the scene with the American business man where he’s in the locker room with Rick Hoffman.

More often than any other scene, audiences around the world tell me that that was the scene that disturbed them the most. I realize that you can have the gore and the eyes getting cut out but this dialogue scene with these two people in the locker room, with just the look on his face talking about killing; that was the tone that I wanted. So I really tried to make a movie that was much more…even Cabin Fever and Hostel are inconsistent in a weird way which I liked but Hostel: Part II, I really tried to make it starting off in that creepy place and staying there.

In the first one we’re really with the characters having fun; we’re kind of with them in Amsterdam and with them in the Brothel. But in this one, when you see the girls that are studying in Italy and you’re seeing these guys in America that are paid to kill them, everyone who’s heading towards this thing; you just feel horrible. I just wanted this sense of dread throughout this whole thing.


How extreme is this movie going to be?

Here’s the thing. I think that I just really honestly want to tell a good story and make it scary and interesting. I want everything to be about the next level. We’ll see the next level of the organization. The movie is about the next level of depravity; if sex doesn’t get you off, the violence is a substitute for that. There are certainly scenes where you have to be the next level of shocking in the serving but at a certain point it’s like, I don’t want the whole movie to just become about that. I just want to tell a really good scary story but if you’re just trying to make it the most shocking serving…it’s been done before and it’s been done better. I love Cannibal Holocaust, I love movies like that and you’re never going to be more shocking in the serving than those films. I just want to tell a good scary story from start to finish.

I was looking at the sequels that I love like [Mad Max 2: The] Road Warrior, Aliens, [Star Wars: Episode V-The] Empire Strikes Back and Devil’s Rejects and you came out of those movies thinking that was actually better than the first one. I thought [in] Aliens, they showed you the Queen Mother and you went so much deeper into the world and [Mad Max 2: The] Road Warrior just took the best parts of Mad Max and it was like that adrenaline rush for 90 minutes. That’s what I was really going for.

Let’s take the things that I thought worked best for Hostel. I really dove on that for the story on the sequel but it was a really difficult challenge because in the first one you don’t know what’s going to happen and it’s scary learning about everything as it unfolds and what these kids have gotten into. So the challenge was, how do you make it scary and have surprises and twists when everybody kind of knows what’s going to happen? And if you don’t have that happen, then people will feel they got ripped off…but I feel great about it. I’m really, really excited about the film.

What was so great is that the studio read the script and thought that no one would ever [want those roles]. They thought it was so sick that no one would ever want to be in this movie. They dared me. They thought I would get no girls to be in this movie because it was too sick. The first person to respond was Heather Matarazzo and Bijou Phillips. So then the studio thought that maybe it was all right.


What about a Hostel III?

I don’t know. Sure the answer is it depends on how Hostel: Part II does. For right now, I don’t want to make a bad Hostel III and I don’t want to force it. I feel like the story ends in Hostel: Part II and let’s just leave it at that right now.


Talk about Guillermo del Toro’s advice that he gave you last year.

Yes, whatever gives you the biggest boner. 100% correct and I’ve talked about that to other directors too. Guillermo del Toro, when I was asking about Cabin Fever if I should do a big budget movie or low budget movie, he just goes (in Toro’s voice): ‘Whatever gives you the biggest boner man. You have to wake up with a f**king rager. If you don’t have a boner, you can’t work.’ And I thought, 'He's right.' You have to be that excited about the project you're doing ... and that was Hostel II.

I was so excited to do it, and I thought about that even with the Grindhouse trailer. I mean, I know people who are doing movies, and they are getting paid big paychecks to do them, and they are miserable. They have to think about this stuff. They don’t want to do it and no matter how much money they get paid, they're still unhappy people. On Hostel, I think my salary was $10,000, and I didn't care. I was just going to do it and have fun. The Thanksgiving for Grindhouse trailer I did for free and it was still the most fun I've ever had shooting anything. The truth is, if you do what you love; the money, none of that matters."

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Pas con :



Comment faire plus dégueu avec une idée toute conne.

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En fait c'est le mix avec une autre affiche où l'on voit la tête (celle de Bijou Philips parait-il) tenue par son corps nu. Là ils ont appliqué la texture de la viande par dessus.

Il connaît les deux affiches je pense.
Sinon c'est Bijou Philips le corps mais pas la tête.
Et le montage est une affiche officielle je crois.

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C'est Sylar en fait Eli Roth

Dommage qu'il soit pas à Cannes... J'aurais adoré l'ambiance.

J'adore ce mec.




Bn sinon, selon les échos, ceux qui n'ont pas aimé le premier n'aimeront pas le second mais ceux qui ont aimé vont suradorer le second.
Réponse mardi prochain.

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Mon dieu...

Moi j'espère juste qu'il y aura de la vraie douleur dans le film et pas l'espèce de truc finalement tout gentil du premier.

Je veux de la cruauté INSOUTENABLE.

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Liam Engle: réalisateur et scénariste