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Auteur:  Film Freak [ 02 Juin 2014, 17:23 ]
Sujet du message:  Snowden (Oliver Stone, 2016)

Putain.

A match made in Heaven.

Puisse ce film voir le jour et marquer le comeback du génie derrière JFK.

Oliver Stone is set to whip up fresh controversy with his adaptation of The Snowden Files, an account of the ongoing NSA scandal written by the Guardian journalist Luke Harding.

Stone's thriller will focus on the experiences of the American whistleblower Edward Snowden, a contractor at the National Security Agency who leaked thousands of classified documents to the former Guardian columnist Glenn Greenwald back in June 2013. The film is to be produced by Stone's regular business partner Moritz Borman, with Harding and other Guardian journalists serving as production and story consultants.

"This is one of the greatest stories of our time," Stone, 67, said in a statement. "A real challenge. I'm glad to have the Guardian working with us."

Snowden's revelations, first reported in the Guardian, lifted the lid on a culture of mass government surveillance, sparked a global furore and forced the Obama administration onto the back foot. Secretary of state John Kerry later conceded that the NSA's programme had "reached too far" and should be curtailed. Snowden's fate, however, remains in the balance. The former NSA employee has been granted temporary asylum in Russia but faces a 30-year prison sentence if he returns to the US.

Published earlier this year, The Snowden Files: The Inside Story of the World's Most Wanted Man charts the political awakening of the twentysomething Snowden, a committed Republican who found his libertarian values increasingly at odds with his government's surveillance programme. A review in the New York Times hailed Harding's book as "a fast-paced, almost novelistic narrative that is part bildungsroman and part cinematic thriller."

Conceived as a European co-production, the film is due to start shooting before the end of 2014. But time is of the essence. Stone's film looks set to face competition from No Place to Hide, a rival project adapted from the book by Glenn Greenwald and overseen by James Bond producers Michael Wilson and Barbara Broccoli.

"To me, Snowden is a hero," Stone said in July of last year. "He revealed secrets that we should all know, that the United States has repeatedly violated the fourth amendment."


Auteur:  Qui-Gon Jinn [ 02 Juin 2014, 17:37 ]
Sujet du message:  Re: The Snowden Files (Oliver Stone, 2015)

Sur le papier c'est alléchant mais j'ai peur de la semi-déception comme sur ses derniers films.

Auteur:  Film Freak [ 02 Juin 2014, 18:07 ]
Sujet du message:  Re: The Snowden Files (Oliver Stone, 2015)

Oui, peur du film fait trop tôt et dans la précipitation.

Faut espérer que sa série documentaire l'a revigoré, que le sujet l'anime davantage que ceux du post-11 septembre (WTC dépourvu de propos, W trop léger dans tous les sens du terme). Stone est de toute façon meilleur quand il est vénère (Wall Street 2 est trop classique mais plus incarné dans son propos post-crise, Savages, lui, est juste classique sans grand chose derrière).

PS : Alexander Ultimate Cut sort demain. On se le fait sur le projo dès que je trouve un BDrip?

Auteur:  Qui-Gon Jinn [ 02 Juin 2014, 18:10 ]
Sujet du message:  Re: The Snowden Files (Oliver Stone, 2015)

Film Freak a écrit:
PS : Alexander Ultimate Cut sort demain. On se le fait sur le projo dès que je trouve un BDrip?

Héééééé. Tentation.

Auteur:  isoborne [ 02 Juin 2014, 18:44 ]
Sujet du message:  Re: The Snowden Files (Oliver Stone, 2015)

Citation:
"To me, Snowden is a hero," Stone said in July


Son biopic sur MLK ne s'est pas fait justement parce qu'il voulait éviter de faire une hagiographie.

J'espère qu'il sera aussi mesuré pour celui-là, même si dans le contexte actuel ce serait tentant (et compréhensible) de faire un film 100% pro-Snowden.

Auteur:  Film Freak [ 02 Juin 2014, 18:46 ]
Sujet du message:  Re: The Snowden Files (Oliver Stone, 2015)

Il ne l'a jamais fait pour aucune des personnes réelles auxquels il a consacré un film.

Auteur:  sponge [ 02 Juin 2014, 18:53 ]
Sujet du message:  Re: The Snowden Files (Oliver Stone, 2015)

Moi ce qui me fait un peu chier c'est ça :

Film Freak a écrit:
a committed Republican who found his libertarian values increasingly at odds with his government's surveillance programme.


Je savais pas que c'était un libertarian.

Auteur:  isoborne [ 02 Juin 2014, 19:01 ]
Sujet du message:  Re: The Snowden Files (Oliver Stone, 2015)

C'est sûr, mais là on est dans l'histoire directe, bien plus que sur W. par exemple.

Citation:
Je savais pas que c'était un libertarian.


Il avait voté Ron Paul en 2012.

Auteur:  Film Freak [ 03 Juin 2014, 14:29 ]
Sujet du message:  Re: The Snowden Files (Oliver Stone, 2015)

Bon allez, on joue?

Qui pour jouer Snowden?

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Jamie Bell?

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Andrew Garfield?

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Josh Hutcherson?

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Anton Yelchin?

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Ryan Gosling?

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Alexander Skarsgard?

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Liam Hemsworth?

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Auteur:  Karloff [ 03 Juin 2014, 14:45 ]
Sujet du message:  Re: The Snowden Files (Oliver Stone, 2015)

Ce serait Di Caprio, selon l'auteur du bouquin adapté.

Auteur:  Film Freak [ 03 Juin 2014, 14:58 ]
Sujet du message:  Re: The Snowden Files (Oliver Stone, 2015)

Il est pourtant booké je crois...t'as vu ça où?
C'est bien l'auteur de ce livre-ci et pas de l'autre, celui du projet concurrent?

Auteur:  Film Freak [ 03 Juin 2014, 15:01 ]
Sujet du message:  Re: The Snowden Files (Oliver Stone, 2015)

Alors après une rapide recherche, en fait, la boîte de prod de DiCpario a cherché à avoir les droits du bouquin de Greenwald (donc PAS celui adapté par Stone) et les a perdu dans la bataille contre Sony.

Auteur:  Karloff [ 03 Juin 2014, 15:24 ]
Sujet du message:  Re: The Snowden Files (Oliver Stone, 2015)

AH OK.

Auteur:  Déjà-vu [ 08 Juin 2014, 15:18 ]
Sujet du message:  Re: The Snowden Files (Oliver Stone, 2015)

Film Freak a écrit:
PS : Alexander Ultimate Cut sort demain.

Citation:
Good trial attorneys never say to a witness, "I just have one more question", because they may have to go back on their word. What if something else important occurs to them during the witness' answer? Similarly, Oliver Stone probably shouldn't have called his 2007 extended version of Alexander "The Final Cut", especially given Stone's well-established penchant for tinkering with his films. He also should have left himself some wiggle room in the note included with the two-disc DVD set, where he said: "[R]est assured this is my last pass, as there is no more footage to be found" (emphasis added). Sure enough, seven years later, here comes the writer/director, on Alexander's tenth anniversary, with yet another "pass". This one is entitled Alexander, The Ultimate Cut, presumably because the word "final" was already taken, but maybe filmmakers and studios should quit using such definitive names for these works-in-progress. Who knows whether this is the last Alexander? Think of this as The 2014 Special Edition.

In total, Stone has released four versions of a project that was his life-long ambition. His biographical portrait of the enigmatic Greek hero known as Alexander the Great now exists in:

a Theatrical Cut released in 2004;
a Director's Cut released on DVD simultaneously with the Theatrical Cut in 2005;
the so-called Final Cut from 2007; and
the Ultimate Cut.

Until now, only the Final Cut was available on Blu-ray, but with this two-disc set, both the Ultimate Cut and the Theatrical Cut make their Blu-ray debut. The Ultimate Cut is being released simultaneously as a separate disc. For reasons discussed at greater length in the Feature section of this review, I don't recommend it. The Theatrical Cut of Alexander has its share of problems, but it's Stone's best version of the film, assembled in the heat of the creative process. Ever since then, Stone has been second-guessing himself, and the film has suffered for it.

In the interest of full disclosure, I note that I have only watched the Theatrical Cut and the Ultimate Cut to completion. I'm generally a fan of Stone, but not of Alexander. Watching the film in two versions for this review gave me a new appreciation of what Stone was attempting to do, as well as some understanding of why he failed. As the film's narrator, Ptolemy, says of his former king and commander, some men's failure towers over others' successes. Even when Stone's films don't work as a whole, they are interesting for their aspirations and for individual elements. But the fact that Stone keeps re-cutting Alexander amounts to a public confession that the film remains problematic. It's striking that the Blu-ray's half-hour documentary, which features a group of talking heads enthusing over the historical figure that Stone tried to bring to life on screen, makes him seem more vibrant and vital than three-plus hours of an Oscar-winning director's labors using all the resources that modern cinema has to offer.

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Alexander ... 04/#Review

Auteur:  David Swinton [ 08 Juin 2014, 19:03 ]
Sujet du message:  Re: The Snowden Files (Oliver Stone, 2015)

Ah. Moi dans le rôle, j'y aurais bien vu

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